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Author:  CerealGuns [ Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:57 am ]
Post subject:  Sunrider

It's been a very long time since I posted here, but I just noticed a game on Steam Greenlight that reminds me a bit of Galaxy Angel. Here's the relevant link: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f ... =202638470

The battle system looks a bit unimpressive but games similar to Galaxy Angel are rare enough that I can't be too picky.

Author:  The odd man [ Sat Dec 14, 2013 3:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sunrider

True point, perhaps it has potential? Of course, it could also fail catastrophically, but it may be worth keeping an eye on.




Perhaps the infrequency of similar games is due to its strange status as a hybrid of dating sim and real time strategy game, which is, admittedly, not a combination I would have expected in general.

Author:  Rico S [ Sun Dec 15, 2013 9:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Sunrider

It seems to be a TBS with several RPG elements incorporated. The only similarity it shares with GA is in unit statistics; score with a girl, and get better equipments. More of a westernized Daiteikoku to me.

Also, what's with the Japanese pop culture hate on Steam? The amount of obnoxious comments over there is horribly annoying.

The odd man wrote:
Perhaps the infrequency of similar games is due to its strange status as a hybrid of dating sim and real time strategy game, which is, admittedly, not a combination I would have expected in general.


A lot of people might relate to this expectation. In GA trilogy, the player has to be aware of possible future outcomes, as the gameplay can go from a smooth and slow conversation (Where the players just need to press a button repeatedly as they read the text) to a fast paced battle (Where the players have to simultaneously micromanage 7 units while developing strategies against tens of enemies, RTS style). It could create a bit of confusion as the mind state changes.

It still feels strange to me that there isn't an option to skip the battles entirely. After all, the thing that matters most is the picked heroine's affection. At least I can enjoy some eye candies as the battle develops.

Author:  The odd man [ Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Sunrider

True, but rarely in games are you allowed to skip the battles. While its not the main point of the game, it IS rather important to the plot itself. Besides, the battles were rather interesting.

Author:  CerealGuns [ Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sunrider

Rico S wrote:
Also, what's with the Japanese pop culture hate on Steam? The amount of obnoxious comments over there is horribly annoying.

Some people seem to think that if a game isn't to their liking then it shouldn't be available on Steam at all. Fortunately Valve disagrees and they've already got quite a few good Japanese games on Steam (such as Recettear, Ys and Half Minute Hero).

Author:  Rico S [ Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sunrider

The odd man wrote:
...it IS rather important to the plot itself...


I see no reason that the battle sequence important, besides its depiction for the sole purpose to connect the dots of a very linear plot that GA has.
The battle sequences can only lead to one conclusion, which is victory. Each time the player fails, the player is forced to restart the battle. The plot do not continue in the condition that the player has failed a battle, but it only can continue in the condition that the player wins every battle. Since the possible outcome can only be one, then the battle can't change the plot at all, making it less important to the plot.

For the sake of brevity though, the battle should have been able to be skipped, and replaced by simple scene with pictures and writings, just like other action-oriented VNs do, FSN as an example.

CerealGuns wrote:
Some people seem to think that if a game isn't to their liking then it shouldn't be available on Steam at all. Fortunately Valve disagrees and they've already got quite a few good Japanese games on Steam (such as Recettear, Ys and Half Minute Hero).


I have been lurking around Steam for a while to browse game mods and it's probably safe to conclude that a big portion of Steam users share the same dislike towards Japanese-esque games. That sort of hivemind is what I'd like to question of. It's good to hear that Valve (Who I assume the people responsible for Steam) takes a more open approach.

Author:  The odd man [ Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Sunrider

I meant more in the sense of advancing the plot than of affecting it. As well being in the military is sorta Tact's reason for being there, as well as a few other things. Its more related to the setting itself than it is the events that transpire within the setting, if that makes any sense. Really, that's common? Well, I haven't really played many visual novel type games, so, I wouldn't know.

Author:  Lester Killderros [ Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Sunrider

For what I can gather on steam and its hatred of japanese gaming culture, it's got less to do with preffered taste, and more to do with what society views japan as from the outside, which is hentai, perversion, stories that don't make sense and, on occasion, a complete sense of alienation in more culturally strict games. By comparison, look at how huge game companies such as Capcom, Namco-Bandai and From Software are over here. They, too, are Japanese Gaming Culture, BUT, and I stress but, they have such a strong history of storylines, characters and settings that are agreeable to the mild mannered sensibilities of your average teen to middle aged gaming male/female, that in the end, when they do launch culture strong games such as Okami, we automatically accept it, because it's capcom. Consider how many huge western developers exist in America, but barely make a dent in Japan, due to the standard of gaming there being ruled over by games created by companies such as Broccoli(bad example, Broccoli is a dying brand, soon, the entire corpse will be eaten by animate)

Author:  The odd man [ Mon Sep 29, 2014 5:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sunrider

Valve is about the only Western game company I know of...actually.

Author:  Lester Killderros [ Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sunrider

Well, there's Lionhead, who's responsible for the fable series of games, gearbox, and by extension, 2k, Volition, with thq/deep silver. Compared to how huge the games these distributor/producer companies put out get in the west, in japan, they receive a much more niche following

Author:  Rico S [ Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Sunrider

Let us all remember the holocaust of Japanese pop-culture reputation with the release of
Spoiler:
for all the suffering of law restrictions, the contempt of limited imports, and the thrill of seclusion from society, towards our galge-player-brethren all over the world!

We shall never forget.

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