Ok so i enoyed the gameplay of Bunny B just not so much of the story so i wanted to hear/read the opinions of people who have played this game.
I am not sure if people are familiar with kamidori alchemy meister this game doesnt contain rape like the mayority of the scenes in Bunny rape all around the corner.
An exmaple of why the rape in Bunny Black is just so bad MC rapes a woman 10 min later the female falls in love with him the worst of the scenerios is the one with the girl with 3 eyes
All the more when they try to do a harem ending where the 3 eyed girl kinda falls in love with the mc (like thx for raping me and all) or the part were he rapes the princess and gets beat up by Shia.
Are visual novels like these populair in japan or something? if they added some propper story line with such amazing art instead of raping every girl for no freaking reason at all it would have been awsome.

So if anyone also noticed or maybe think this is like freaking obvious and i am just stupid for trying to find a good story like KAM or eien no aselia in a rape game. (please do share__)


Edit: i just went to vndb.org and checked all games by SofthouseChara seems the main focus on 99% of their games is basicly treathing females like crap.

Dude. In this game you are the minion of a demon overlord who runs a horde of demons and monsters.
I really don't know what you would expect the MC to be like. A wonderful good natured guy like the guy in Kamidori?

Also, regarding the "has sex and women like it" thing, I believe that has to do with the mana in his body that gets discharged. It is particulary effective on demons and monsters (like the three eyed girl, the dark elf, the succubi...)
It sounds reasonable, considering that what you said isn't really true. The humans in the prison don't submit, at least the majority of them. The only humans who end up submitting are the ones who are acquainted with the MC prior to the sex scene, like the warrior chick and the wizard girl and even then they don't really fall in love as much as they just enjoy it.

But yeah, it isn't realistic. That wouldn't be how it work at all and I believe that nobody who is normal in the head would think so. It is a fantasy game, so take it at face value rather than the values and beliefs of the guy who made the game.

Dude. In this game you are the minion of a demon overlord who runs a horde of demons and monsters.
I really don't know what you would expect the MC to be like. A wonderful good natured guy like the guy in Kamidori?
----> Are you serious i probally didnt notice havent been reading the game sigh dude of course i know that so your saying if a mafia boss or lets say even hitler recruits you by focre you go out of you way to rape females inflicting massive amounts of pain on them? he did this all willingly no one told him to rape all girls same for when he could have just salvaged the princess and drop her off above ground.

Also, regarding the "has sex and women like it" thing, I believe that has to do with the mana in his body that gets discharged. It is particulary effective on demons and monsters (like the three eyed girl, the dark elf, the succubi...)
It sounds reasonable, considering that what you said isn't really true. The humans in the prison don't submit, at least the majority of them. The only humans who end up submitting are the ones who are acquainted with the MC prior to the sex scene, like the warrior chick and the wizard girl and even then they don't really fall in love as much as they just enjoy it.

----------> the game trys to talk it right with excuses liek he got mana in his body but this doesnt work the mana wich he needs to discharge is all dandy and well but all the girls he rapes (all the characters that got a damm personality in the game) gets raped in the most painfullway u can imagine a lot of them are even willing from the get go yet he always jams his wiener in hurting them a lot best example is when he gets the request to save the princess why is there a need to rape her none at all yet he does it when he comes back Shia beats him up if i were in her shoes i would have slipt a dagger in his freaking chest when he was sleeping yet she loves him. or the 3 eyed girl he could have just beat her up yet he fucks her at every turn without foreplay on purpose to hurt her he can just have a bit of foreplay this will fix all the problems of the game yet he gos out of its way to have a cruel rape scene at every turn.

But yeah, it isn't realistic. That wouldn't be how it work at all and I believe that nobody who is normal in the head would think so. It is a fantasy game, so take it at face value rather than the values and beliefs of the guy who made the game.
------------> it isnt about realistic i dont know what the authors were thinking but have u ever seen so much rape in a story and then they force the personality of the females in such a way that ur asking Uh why again are u sharing the bed willingly with the mc Shia even says (he is making love to me ) no that isnt love that is him using you as a mastrubation sleeve.

Hm maybe i went about it wrongly what i am trying to say is pick any story or good guy make him do things to get on the good side of girls girls will love him ok so far so good.
Problem with black bunny is that they used paper scissors cut out the good guy placed a jack ass in it that beats up girls and gets love in return the reactions didnt change but the actions of the mc did maybe that explains it better.
One example of what doesnt sit well with me is that he says he raped the 3 eyed girl because he wanted to protect Shia and his loved ones and he hates it when people screw with people around him so he rapes her in a very painfull way whenever she crosses the street or he just spots her (he announces it like he is proud of it) or when he gos out to save the princess he beats up the demon who kidnapped the princess he says that he cannot forgive him for messing with girls ( omg at least he doesnt rape and abuses them).
So basicly i want to point out the inconsistentie the author makes a game/VN were the MC rapes girls in cruel ways but gets love in return (they make the mc in such a way that he is a good guy but his actions dont match) i seriously cannot explain it in any other way but the game does a good job in the art department gameplay just the author has some mental problem were he thinks that a guy who treaths females that way while saying I DONT FORGIVE ANYONE MESSING WITH GIRLS i will protect them by raping them i dont freaking understand this.

Edit: and the discussion of this topic is legit any other person who played this game and finished it should understand what i mean by INCONSISTENTIE saying its a game so a person should not take it seriously is a bit weird.
Why should a person read a story anyway its because a person wants to enjoy himself and for that you need a story that can be understood if it doesnt confirm with reality at least on a basic lv.
So i wanted to discuss and hear peoples opinion on this matter not someone making up excuses simpely why do u think bunny black is like this and if u agree with me "a response by saying its a story deal with it u dont need to take it seriously" i cant even call that a reaction.

Again, it is not inconsistent. It is a genre. You don't like it. You don't understand it. I get it. Guess the game just isn't your cup of tea, there is nothing to do about it.
If Bunny Black upsets you this much, then don't play any game that has Rance in the name.

Nono sigh i get me not liking a genre i am just trying to point out that its weird when the mc is all about raping girls but people in the game still like him saying stuff like that he doesnt like it when females get messed with aka the demon who kidnapped the princess yet he does exactly the same on a much larger scale.
This is a tactic often used in regulair vns or any love storys like when the half human/demon got controlled he saves her and gives her back her book instead of using it to make her do his bidding the half demon will be like oh he is so kind i love you so mucchhhhh then he also has a sex scene were the description is as follow.
(i stick my wiener in her forcing her lips open while blood splatters around she is in so much pain but i continue anyway regardless of how much pain she is experiencing oh suddenly there is a bit of wetness this is probally not by her getting aroused but her natural defensive mechs to protect her by producing fluids) this is very sick but then he gos about it in a loving way by kissing her and stuff if the author litterly went about it rape all the way no one would be able to say i like this stuff because hearing a girl scream and cry while blood is gushing out is not something a person can openly say i love this stuff.

Is this your first time playing SoftHouseChara game?

"Bunny Black story is this normal?"

Yes, it's normal. You can also said Darx is as same type of Adventurer as Rance in term of pervertness. What made him different is, he stayed in one place and protect his territory, while Rance keep adventuring from place to place.

I think It's not weird to see rape scenes on RPG games. In fact, the player should ready to face this kind of scenes would appear in the RPG games since anything can happen and there is no "police" to threat the adventurer.

Well, let me OOT a bit and explain about BB series.

On this BB1, it's all about Darx's story to reach the top/Dungeon Master. He also got approval from Overlord to do as he pleases (also he need to reduce his mana from the body too), and the only way to release the mana is by raping the girls that obstructed his peace. Instead executed them, he prefer tormented them.

After become Overlord, Darx slowly changed, he is not as wild as when he still adventurer/minion back then. Instead, he enjoyed his short peaceful time with Koze-Foze and his harem. Until the new enemies attacked and ruined his territoy.

Leave that aside, Darx realized something (Around BB2 I think).
All of his childrens are immune to Fozerotte's mana drain skill. Long-short story, he decided to make a lot of childrens so Fozerotte won't be lonely anymore. (Pic related).


Another spoiler for BB3:


If you think anyone who playing this genre is rotten, feel free to think so. It's a risk to play an eroge/any 2D games anyway.

Yeah if you're looking for story in an eroge you're looking in the wrong place. Visual novels are usually either porn games with story or stories that happen to have sex scenes in them. Very few visual novels have an equal amount of both. I actually prefer how BB has tons of sex scenes but each are very short, since reading about sound effects get real old real fast.

Kamidori is a light hearted game, BB isn't, that's just the way it is. Darx is like Rance, which is why people have a hard time characterizing them. I personally don't hate them but they do leave a bad taste in my mouth sometimes. The girls only fall in love with them because girls in Japanese media are emotionally vulnerable 100% of the time. It's one of my pet peeves about anime and manga because it doesn't matter even if a heroine is incredibly strong and complex, but that could be its own discussion on its own so let's not.

And yeah, it is popular in Japan the same reason BDSM porn is popular in America, because it's fantasy. It's fine to hate Darx because you don't like what he does, but just remember that the end of the day you're complaining about a "book".

Heya i understand what u guys mean but i am not perse bashing rape games because that is someones cup of tea (if they cant rape people at least let them read a game were they can do it right -.-) what i am trying to understand is the conflicting things that happen in the game.
Maybe i am overusing the examples but i want people to pay atention to this example and understand what exactly i am talking about so i shall type it again and if u guys still think i am bashing the game because i dont like rape (wich is tru) so be it i just want to point out that its weird how its done in the game.

Ok so he needs to save the princess even if the quest litterly said he should rape her i wont mind what i am talking about its simpely his conflicting personalty and what the author wants to acomplish so he saves her by beating the demon who kidnapped her then he states that he saved her because he doesnt like people who mess with females right this doesnt make sense normaly a propper gentle or justice like MC would say this then he contineus by raping her.
After the rape scene he tells shia that he laid his hands on her then follows a typical scene were he gets beat up by Female protagonist wich is basicly a show of love or something similair (light hearted) moment.
This happens quite often in the game so basicly what i dont like is the fact that the author kinda trys to conceal the fact that he rapes people and inflicts massive amounts of pain on them like its something good (normaly when a person plays a vn they try to look tru the eyes of the mc) that is why a lot of people for diffrent games can mention not liking the game because the protagonist sucks personality wise or voice wise or anything really.
And to clarify yes he has mana in his body the overlord litterly told him he can only expel it by having sex (she did say he should abduct females and have sex with them but getting a female demon who is willing or some other human female after spending some time to get her to have sex with him was also an option) he could have just paid someone for sex and treath them right same way he eventualy has sex with shia in the beginning he had no other means so u could argue he would die if he didnt rape her but for all the other females he basicly had no reason to hurt them or act like he did he could have had nice wet soppy sex with them and no one would complain.

The reason rape happens in that way is because the author likes that kind of setting but what i dont understand is why mix 2 personality that cannot mix raping and hurting and insulting females if no one obeys him he will resort to force (he even rapes a daughter of a merchant even if she posed no treath whatso ever to him) how would u react if your daughter got raped because she throwed a dagger at him even if the girl was in the wrong a simple respone saying i want a lot of money otherwise i will kill her is ok.
And again saying if u dont like the story dont read it or if it aint ur cup of tea doesnt work as i am not argueing for the sake of telling everyone that the story is crap i am asking for peoples opinion if they can find themself in my opinion that is all.

And lastely yes i understand that the company behind bunny black 99% of the has a MC that acts like this but what i dont understand why is it populair? he aint a echi mc he is a scumbag in rance quest (as far as i played maybe 30 mins) he just treaths them rough but he has at least like 1% of loyalty to them and likes having sex with a lot of woman but litterly enoying the fact that a woman screams in pain bcause he didnt have foreplay with them and then fucking them till they pass out and they wake up again duo to the pain of him continueing his rape actions i dont understand.

Oh and like 1 month ago i invested some time in going on a holiday to japan after looking tru a lot of things i started to understand that japan is kinda screwd up (childhood memories of animes can be misleading).
The things that happen in rance quest or bunny black is a typical something japanese people love (its a stereotype u can probally find a lot of japanese people that do not enjoy rape) but its a fact that most of the (wife cheats on husband ntr or school girl gets raped by 100 black guys and 1000 japanese people) is something that orginates from japan as a populair medium.
A lot of the characters in bunny black were so dazeling cute and awsome i would have given the vn/game like a 1000 out of 100 if darx character was like 10% of rance minimum ( i seriously dont have any experience with rance games except for the 30 min i played so dont bash me on this if rance also enjoys raping females at every turn) then i am probally wrong.
But if i was like in 1km distance of Darx i would seriously have laid down my live to kill him seriously the moment he tryd to hurt the 3 eyed girl by raping her and says that justice is on his side i already understood clearly that the game is a clever way to give people the satisfaction of a rape story by not completely making the game comparable to a smuff movie -.- (aka it would not have suprised me if he there was a 5 year old sister of the 3 eyed girl and he raped her to get revenge on the 3 eyed girl that is how disturbing his actions are (and then saying ha you reap what you sow you wanted to chase me away so i raped your infant sister OMG?).

Edit: it seems i am clearly bashing now as this thread didnt go as i expected its fine to not react anymore ( i was expecting people to react by saying i got a point its quite missleading but the gameplay value is good enuf so u can ignore the story dont take it to hard as probally a lot of people have the same reaction maybe i am just not cut out for games by the makes of race quest)

We don't really care if you're bashing it or not, it's fine, really, lol. A lot of fetishes exist in Japanese media, and rape and NTR and popular in it, but obviously not everyone likes it.

I'm not really sure what you want from us, I mean we answered your question in that yeah, it is normal. But of course there are people that downright hate it too.

Like you have a point, yeah, but we don't really care either way. There are plenty of for you to play though.

Hm i geuss i will thx for the trouble (also to point my problem isnt that there is rape in the game because i can just avoid it by not playing it) just that the author becomes kind of a hypocrite wich bothers me not to mention the rance series are populair at least rance isnt as harsh as bunny black but it still creeps me out.
Gonna check some other games thx again for the trouble of lissening to my rants.

I think Rance is worse than Bunny Black.
Rance and Darx are both bastards, but Rance is always laughing at his own bastardy like a gigging 5 year old. I think it's because the Rance series is supposed to be a comedy, yet commits the cardinal sin of not being funny to anyone but itself.

Hm there is this one new hentai video of rance quest with good art near the end of it he kinda rapes a girl and she likes it (this is basicly a hentai formula for the fun of it) opposite happens in BB were they dont like getting raped but eventualy cave in and start to like it wich is more realistic but still kinda nasty nonetheless like a comedy rape were the girl says non but her pussy says yes can be seen as MOE or at least enoyed with a bit of water to the wine.
Then i can understand people liking it.

Yes it is normal. Darx is supposed to be evil. That's kind of the point.

As for the thing with Elizabeth (The three-eyed girl/Triclops) and you bringing that up, if you had actually read the story, she threatened Shia. That was why he was excessively cruel to her, he was angry that she was going to attempt to hurt someone he cared about.

I read the freaking story and my point is not why he did it my point is why the author trys to make him out to be a hero with conflicting actions he rapes the 3 eyed girl why not just bash her face in so she wont do it again the mc makes a point out of it to rape her in such a way that its just sick to watch. (its fine that i rape her because she did something bad omg get real)
Then he proclaims justice is on his side and eventualy the 3 eyed girl falls in love with him this is what i am talking about doesnt make sense no one falls in love with a person that raped you more than 20 times not to mention she hated him from the beginning because he is a human capish pls dont respond with obvious crap that i havent mentioned.

Edit: and darx isnt supposed to be evil in the story (the story is trying to say that demons arent evil and can be kind to like humans exactly what he told to shia trying to defend demons as nice beings).
He is just a hentai mc (with conflicting actions apartfrom the rape he is a nice guy that is why i cannot stomache this stuff) no one enjoys doing what he does after turning sides same way that Rance in Rance quest basicly rapes people and kills other people that rape people saying its bad not understanding that rape is bad when he does it i am not sure how an author came up with such a character and people even love it.
In all rance quest storys were he rapes a girl the female always likes it i am sure that an animated hentai movie aboutrape is only fun when the girl doesnt react realisticly when she gets raped (a blood curling scream from the girl that gets raped isnt nice to lissen to so instead they make females out to be creatures that enjoy getting raped just go watch some realistic movie about rape and a girl will scream and trash around so badly you would think that she is being electrocuted.

Darx is a narcissistic dick with double standards. There, problem solved.

Whether or not Darx is evil has nothing to do with whether or not demons are evil.

I am very sorry that this game isn't torture porn. I'm sure you can find that somewhere if you really want it, though I doubt any of it has been translated.

Look, it's a fantasy. "This guy has got so much cool that even the girls he rapes can't help falling for him."

It's no different from the mind control "I can make any girl do what I want", and mind break "Do her enough and she'll grow to love it" fantasies.

Yes, these are perfectly normal sub genres of Japanese eroge. No, they're not realistic. Yes, they're representative of a misoginystic mindset common to a culture that has repressed women for millenia. No, you don't have to enjoy it. It's a fun game even if you skip all the H scenes.

I think he wants to address a slightly different issue, namely the fact that close to all women that Darx rapes end up either in an relationship with him or end up enjoying their role as his sexslave.

Honestly, I didn't think too deeply about that, before reading this post, since it was unnecessary to enjoy the story - which, even if not too deep, was quite fun for me. But I think that, atleast the case with the triclops girl (too lazy to remember or look up her name ) it's somewhat understandable that she ends up liking him, atleast if you take an extremely "favorable" point of view.

First off, like some already mentioned, he raped her quite a number of times without caring about the time or place (Rakia's immediate sourroundings excluded. ), in other words; she had no safe haven, the moment Darx sees her she's done for. Moreover he only came once everytime, so it was always quite fast, she had no time to get used to it. After she apologized to Shia, Darx said that he did the triclops girl again but this time he made sure to pleasure her thouroughly, after that she ended up liking Darx, or atleast the pleasure he can bring her.

So he practically trained her; although he used the stick far more often than the carrot. But it worked since she had no prior expierience, was mentally at her breaking point and so on.

As for the other girls and their love for either him or his "carrot/stick", Ekate had enough reason to love him, Merelyn seems to be quite meek and a big M, Liz and the Oni girl had no prior expierience with that stuff (he didn't rape them either, they wanted it), Dorothy (is that her name? the teleport witch is who I mean...) didn't fall in love with him but with the books he Darx gave her, Cass was long since mentally broken by Darx, and as for Shia she is a prime example of Stockholm syndrom. The only one I really can't understand, no matter how extremely favorable a viewpoint I take is Shia's sister... maybe she just wants her sister's toy, without really understanding that it's mostly the other way around? Dunno.

As for why you don't like Darx's character I can't say. I saw far worse rapist MC's, in far worse and more hardcore settings for their story. So far worse in fact, that I find Darx quite likeable, for an fictional character mind you.

Although I don't know why this bugs you to this degree, you better take your distance from this triology, otherwise it'll keep bugging you 'til you die of stress. ^_^

Postbank, I think you're a little too young to play adult content games. You should read more world news, travel even more and then come back to R18 games. Your idealistic perception on things is quite painful to read... I'm not sure what sort of explanations from a forum can change your mind. We don't agree with you simply because you have a very naive POV.

Just reading on how you suggested Rance is less harsher than Bunny Black, excuse me, but you have problems reading English *and* Japanese (if you played the games). You know what happens to the girls in Rance when the bad guys get them? They get their minds completely wrecked, pride destroyed and used a source of monster babies or raped till their deaths.

The character Rance is worse than Darx, period. If you haven't read what Rance is all about, you shouldn't bring him into the picture. It's like comparing your stove burner (Darx) versus a flamethrower (Rance).

PS: If you need me to point out where you looked silly, just reply and I'll quote it for you and explain to you why no one is agreeing with you.

I love this genre 100% (pure sarcasm) lol I'm amused by this genre because it reminds me of how bad D&D can get.

By the way i remember reading a comment about how range, and darx are Tue same, or similar. Then I believe i read than darx was not as bad.

I think that's wrong.

Rance

Not into incest aka he doesn't want to H reset.

He has an age range of 15 - 30, and was highly depressed when he learned mill was a child, and he took her virginity.

He was pissed in sengoku when he found kohime in the state she was in.

Darx

Commits incest with daughter.

Doesn't seem like he has any real morals from what I read about what you guys say so I'll see what happens.

I need to play past the first job I took so after I finish the game I'll be able to make a complete list.